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Don't forget Niagara Falls Luncheon 7-17-2008  American Legion

 July 10,2008

Gorlyn Bronstad was kind enough to send us an update on a couple of our Moore Friends he thought you would like to know.

Jame Earp:
"James had a celebration for friends and customers last night at the> Ball Park in Arlington. The event was a game between Texas Rangers and Los Angeles Angels. He had purchased 500 tickets for the group
James uses a 4 wheel walker with a seat.  He wheeled it out to the > pitchers mound  and then on his two legs threw out the first pitch to a loud roar of approval from the crowd. It was a good pitch.  He was introduced by what has happened in  his life.
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> During the game a commemorative baseball was given each guest.  A tag attached had this comment" Celebrating & Thanking God for a new life for James Earp, July 7,2008"
Talked to him briefly and he stated Drs. advise him that he is doing well."

John Jach (Loretta's husband) 

Hi Gorlyn and Jane,   John took sick and is in the hospitala with  conjestive heart failure. About a month ago he had this terrible cough so I  took him to the emergency room  at the  local hospital.  It turned out he had  pneumonia- after having had a physical a couple days before.  Anyway he was home in  two weeks and pronounced well. Then he had chest  pains one night and I took him back to ER and  they  didn't know where the pains were coming from but  stated it was definitely NOT a heart attack. They sent  him home after a couple of days. Last Thursday early morning  John couldn't breathe. I called 911 and they said his  blood pressure was dangerously high an he belonged in the hospital. So I  again took him to  ER an they started  all the tests and a heart surgeon came to the room and  told me he hads congestive heart failure.  So this afternoon  they performed an angiogram and found he has several arteries that are blocked quite badly.  This evening John called  and said the head surgeon - also a cardiologist visited him and said he is a good candidate for bypass  surgery. I am going to the hospital early tomorrow and my son will talk  to the doctor by  phone, but he intends  to come  down here  perhaps tomorrow. (He just returned from Europe after  giving a couple of speeches  in Croatia  and in  Paris.   So that is where we stand now. I have practically worn a path between  my  driveway and the  hospital's. I have visited him every day and stayed late. If  you have any  erinfluence, say a  prayer for JOhn. Love, Loretta 

Thurmont Plans Summer Picnic

June 18, 2008

Thurmont's annual summer picnic will be held in Thurmont's Community Park on Frederick Rd (Rt.806) with the event starting at 5:00PM. 

Contact:

Don Valentine via email donl.valentine@gmail.com or call him at 301-271-2057. Don't forget to bring $10.00

Other dates to note: Surprised

September 18th  Hickory Bridge Farm in Orrtanna (11:30 AM)

November 7th  Bus trip to American Theatre Christmas Show (9:30 AM)

December 9th Annual Christmas Luncheon at the Cozy Restaurant (12:00PM)

Thurmont retirees enjoyed seeing Chip Zander who was accompanied by his dad Bud Zander at the chapter's May Breakfast. Chip, as you remember, worked at Thurmont, Nia. Falls and Chicago. He now resides in Pegram Tenn.

During April and May other chapters held similar events with Denton North Texas Chapter having thier springtime BBQ on April 30.  Nacogdoches TX Chapter held their luncheon on May 29th.  Hmmm...can you smell the brisket?  Wonder if anyone took their black hat to the event!

2008-03-16

Great Time At Moore Florida's 17th Annual Winter Reunion!

From Galveston & Sherman Texas, Buckhannon VA. , and Chicago, Il, to the Northern, Southern and Eastern parts of Florida made their way to our 17th winter reunion. It was great to see you!  If you could not attend our reunion this year you missed a good one! The event was held at the Venice Yacht Club in Venice Florida with grand vistas of the inter-coastal and Gulf of Mexico.  (Click on photos)

Gorlyn Bronstad, our MC welcomed the group introducing several new faces who were attending their first reunion: Tom & Anna Dorgan, ("The Villages" Ocala, Fl. area), Frank & Mary Ann Gardiner (Chicago HQ) Ed & Kay Sienkiewkz (Buckhannon). 

We were especially honored by the presence of a Moore customer...  Frank Shannon, a former MOORE customer, retired from the Hecht Company in the Washington, DC area some years ago. Larry Bendix has kept in touch and been friends for a long time.  Frank lives in Punta Gorda, Florida and they meet for lunch a few times a year... Says Larry. "He  (Frank Shannon)was such a loyal Moore customer in his job as Vice President of Hecht's division of the May Company that I knew he would enjoy our reunion. Hecht's has since merged and is now Macy's Department Stores."

Several guest spoke about their experiences while working at Moore.  If we counted the years of experience of Moore Retirees in the room I counted close to 600 years in that room. The length of service represented says something about corporate America these days.

Moore Florida wishes to extend many thanks to those who traveled to our event. It means a lot to the members to see you and we immensely enjoy the fellowship.  Special thanks to Bob Burkhart for the golf outing on Saturday at his home course Heron Creek. (Webmaster was glad he brought another box of balls)...

and let us not forget Dom & Sue Cosco, and Dick Kay who provide us with the arrangements. Special thanks to John Edmundson,  RR Donnelley for the presentation materials about RRD changes and new facilities.  (We recognized some people, in the video believe it or not! )  

 In 2009, Friday, March 13th Surprised we have schedule our 18th Winter Reunion at the Yacht Club.  So, mark your calendars.!


  •  2008-03-12

  Langston Kerr (Moore Southern Chapter) sent us a copy of their March 2008 newsletter and is now a part of our shared files page.   Also, in the photos page we have added a Nacogdoches Album.  Langston was kind enough to share some pics of their members at the last outing.  Thank you Langston! 

Nacogdoches Rocks!


  • 2008-02-24

Note From Bob Place: 

Webmaster received word via Bob Place that Jim Sanders former Plant Controller at Iowa City has taken ill and is going through treatment to slow the progression of a serious threat.   Jim wrote that he thinks often of his Moore Friends as he looks in the rear view mirror.  I hope his treatment is successful and look forward hearing from him in the future to catch up on what he has been doing.  (Webmaster)


 

Moore Florida.org learn of the untimely passing of Wes McCracken's wife Tam this past fall.  Our prayers go out to Wes and his family.  You can view a tribute to Tam by following this link    http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/tammccracken

John Robins gave me a link to the Moore Illinois blog. You can access through the link on our home page.


Had Dinner with Bob Kunio and his wife a couple of weeks ago.  Bob was VP Marketing at BCS.  Bob sends his regards to the BCS group

 
Have you ever lease your car?  Shared files has an easy to use lease calculator. Paste the link below into your browser for the best site I've seen in years.  Tells you all the tricks and myths of car buying and leasing. http://www.leaseguide.com/index2.htm  

Discover The Author Lad Moore

Crowded Elevator

 

    As the crowded elevator descended, Mrs. Silverman became increasingly furious with her husband, who was delighted to be pressed against a gorgeous young blonde woman.

    As the elevator stopped at the main floor, the blonde suddenly whirled, slapped Mr. Silverman, and said, "That will teach you to pinch!"

    Bewildered, Mr. Silverman was halfway to the parking lot with his wife when he choked, "I . . . I didn't pinch that girl."

    "Of course you didn't," replied his wife, consolingly. "I did."

Letters From Our Colleagues

Berle:
 
Thought you would want to know about this
Gail Cameron 1-28-08
  
Hi,
Would you mind adding me to your mail list.
It is always great to hear what Moore colleagues are doing
especially since so many of us spent over 30 years making the company famous.
I am Acct Exec. retired from the Portland Oregon sales office,
and prior from prepress in the Salem Or. Plant. 
The Bill Hogue news is sobering as I worked for him 8 1/2 years here.
It is good to have a pipeline.   The website is a good thing.
Many Thanks,
Shirley Meithof
Silverton, Oregon,
and Palm Springs, Ca

OK....You have got to know this person! Laughing

Harold Bogan & Wife Fussy. Harold was plant mgr. for Nacogdoches Moore

Hi Berle
We just got back from Atlantic City, Feb. 07 made my annual contribution.  I retired early from Label Art, a manufacturer for the trade who was owned by WS Packaging, when they were acquired.
Diane and I retired to Oceam View DE. which was our second home when we lived in Baltimore.  I became aware of your web-site from Rudy Endrizzi who I stay in close contact with.  Diane's father is in a nursing home in Mount Dora, Fla near Leesberg and we have been in your fair state 10 times in the last year and would love to attend the annual get together but we will be in Aruba from March 3-11 but we will plan on next year, is it normally held in March?
Keep Smiling!
Dick


 Stanley was in his usual place in the morning, sitting at the table, reading the paper after breakfast. He came across an article about a beautiful actress that was about to marry a football player, who was known primarily for his lack of I.Q. and common knowledge.

He turned to his wife with a look of question on his face. "I'll never understand why the biggest jerks get the most attractive wives."

Stanley's wife replied, "Why thank you, dear!"

In Memory 2005-2008

 
Roy BowmanChuck & Doris Taylor
Terry BrunsWayne Tubach 
William "Bill" BumgarnerArthur Toyama
Don ChristansonVern DeVinney 
Elton ClarkeJim Damenti
Bob T FinkEmanuel (Ike) Eichholz
Jim FloraBetty Frushour
Joe GoodsonDick Gecha 
Lisa GravelBob Hyland
Michael J Hanlon Muriel Kessler
Bill HogueEd Lance
Don HolmanMary Mahoney
William Hope Del Oddy
Ivan SmithDon Trip
Andrew PsykaRalph Waehner

Lease or Buy

So, is it better to lease, or to buy? As with any question of this type, there are always pros and cons, pluses and minuses, advantages and disadvantages.

Let's simplify the answers and summarize them here:

1. The short-term monthly cost of leasing is ALWAYS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS than the cost of buying.
For the same car, same price, same term, and same down payment, monthly lease payments will always be 30%-60% lower than loan payments. This is still true even when compared to 0% or low-interest loans. For actual detailed comparisons, see our Lease vs. Buy Calculator.

2. The medium-term cost of leasing is ABOUT THE SAME as the cost of buying, assuming the buyer sells/trades his vehicle at loan-end and the leaser returns her vehicle at lease-end.

The overall cost of leasing compared to buying, over the same lease/loan term, is approximately the same, assuming the buyer sells the vehicle at the end of the loan. Comparisons sometimes show buying to cost a little less than leasing due to fewer fees, lower total finance costs, and the assumption that a purchased vehicle will return full market value if it is sold or traded at the end of the loan (often a bad assumption, especially if traded). However, when the benefits of wisely investing monthly lease savings are considered, the net cost of leasing can easily be less than buying.

3. The long-term cost of leasing is ALWAYS MORE than the cost of buying, assuming the buyer keeps his vehicle for years after loan-end.
If a buyer keeps his car after the loan has been paid off and drives it for many more years, the cost is spread over a longer term. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that the cost of buying one car and driving it for ten years is less expensive than leasing or buying five different cars over the same period. Therefore, leasing is always more expensive than long-term buying. If long-term financial cost savings were the most important objective in acquiring a new car, it would always be best to buy the car and drive it for as long as it survives — or until the cost of maintenance and repairs begins to exceed the cost of replacing it. However, many automotive consumers have other objectives that reduce the importance of long-term cost savings.

So, which is better, lease or buy?

It depends on what's most important to you. All of us have different lifestyles and priorities — in cars and in finances. Car lease-versus-buy decisions must be made with your own lifestyle and priority attributes in mind. What's right for one person can be totally wrong for another.

LEASE - If you enjoy driving a new car every two or three years, want lower monthly payments, like having a car that has the latest safety features and is always under warranty, don't like trading and selling used cars, don't care about building ownership equity, have a stable predictable lifestyle, drive an average number of miles, properly maintain your cars, are willing to pay more over the long haul to get these benefits, and understand how leasing works, then you should lease.

BUY - If you don't mind higher monthly payments, prefer to build up trade-in or resale value (equity), like the idea of having ownership, like paying off your loan to be payment-free for a while, don't mind the unexpected cost of repairs after warranty has expired, drive more than average miles, prefer to drive your cars for years to spread out the cost, like to customize your cars, expect lifestyle changes in the near future, and don't like the risk of possible lease-end charges — then you should buy.

Some Questions and Answers: 

Auto leasing has exploded in popularity in the last few years. Yet, many automotive consumers don't understand how leasing really works, or how to determine if it's right for them. It's a fact that many people now leasing a car are overpaying because they didn't know how to get a good deal — or how to recognize a bad deal. Other people who could greatly benefit from leasing are shying away because they are not comfortable with the leasing process and its unfamiliar language.Why leasing? As recently as ten years ago, many automobile consumers had never heard of leasing, much less done it. Now, approximately a fifth of all new cars, trucks, SUVs, and vans are leased. Approximately 75% of luxury cars are leased. After a temporary slowdown during the last few years because of aggressive zero-percent loan programs, leasing is once again growing in popularity. Just look at the volume of lease ads in your local newspaper and on TV to get a notion of how popular automobile leasing has become.Leasing provides an alternative method of financing an automobile that offers several benefits that are attractive and beneficial to many automotive consumers. In particular, leasing offers significantly lower monthly payments than a loan.Why is car leasing popular? Two factors helped cause the shift to leasing. First, the cost of new cars has rapidly spiraled upwards over the last few decades, often putting prices out of reach of average buyers. Second, federal tax law changes in the late 1980's eliminated finance interest deductions on automobile loans, which further increased ownership cost. The net effect is that people have become increasingly eager to find ways to make personal vehicles more affordable.Auto manufacturers and finance companies have come to the rescue in a big way with consumer car leasing programs. These programs are simply a modified version of business leasing that have been around for years. This helps explain much of the strange language and confusing concepts associated with consumer leasing today. In a nutshell, leasing has become popular because it offers people a way to drive the vehicles they want — often better vehicles than they could buy — for less money and less hassle. Low monthly payments are the big attraction, although we'll soon find out why it's important to look at other factors before deciding to lease.Is leasing for you?Leasing can offer advantages but it may not fit everybody's needs and lifestyle. Furthermore, leases can be somewhat more complicated than new-car purchase loans and require greater care and preparation in order to get a good fair deal — and avoid problems. Some people will discover that leasing offers them no benefits and that they should not lease. Others will realize that leasing is right for them and that they can benefit greatly. When you buy, you pay for the entire cost of a vehicle, regardless of how many miles you drive it. You typically make a down payment, pay sales taxes in cash or roll them into your loan, and pay an interest rate determined by your loan company, based on your credit history. You make your first payment a month after you sign your contract. Later, you may decide to sell or trade the vehicle for its depreciated resale value. When you lease, you pay for only a portion of a vehicle's cost, which is the part that you "use up" during the time you're driving it. You have the option of not making a down payment, you pay sales tax only on your monthly payments (in most states), and you pay a financial rate, called money factor that is similar to the interest on a loan. You may also be required to pay fees and possibly a security deposit that you don't pay when you buy. You make your first payment at the time you sign your contract — for the month ahead. At lease-end, you may either return the vehicle, or purchase it for its depreciated resale value. Buy vs lease example  you pay the entire $20,000, plus finance charges, plus possible fees. This is fundamentally why leasing offers significantly lower monthly payments than buying.  

So if you're thinking about leasing a new car, or don't know if you should lease or buy — or need help with your current lease — this web site http://www.leaseguide.com , was created with you in mind. Remember, knowledge is power — especially in car leasing. An educated automotive consumer will get more respect from dealers and will benefit from better deals

Auto leasing has exploded in popularity in the last few years. Yet, many automotive consumers don't understand how leasing really works, or how to determine if it's right for them. It's a fact that many people now leasing a car are overpaying because they didn't know how to get a good deal — or how to recognize a bad deal. Other people who could greatly benefit from leasing are shying away because they are not comfortable with the leasing process and its unfamiliar language.Why leasing? As recently as ten years ago, many automobile consumers had never heard of leasing, much less done it. Now, approximately a fifth of all new cars, trucks, SUVs, and vans are leased. Approximately 75% of luxury cars are leased. After a temporary slowdown during the last few years because of aggressive zero-percent loan programs, leasing is once again growing in popularity. Just look at the volume of lease ads in your local newspaper and on TV to get a notion of how popular automobile leasing has become.Leasing provides an alternative method of financing an automobile that offers several benefits that are attractive and beneficial to many automotive consumers. In particular, leasing offers significantly lower monthly payments than a loan.Why is car leasing popular? Two factors helped cause the shift to leasing. First, the cost of new cars has rapidly spiraled upwards over the last few decades, often putting prices out of reach of average buyers. Second, federal tax law changes in the late 1980's eliminated finance interest deductions on automobile loans, which further increased ownership cost. The net effect is that people have become increasingly eager to find ways to make personal vehicles more affordable.Auto manufacturers and finance companies have come to the rescue in a big way with consumer car leasing programs. These programs are simply a modified version of business leasing that have been around for years. This helps explain much of the strange language and confusing concepts associated with consumer leasing today. In a nutshell, leasing has become popular because it offers people a way to drive the vehicles they want — often better vehicles than they could buy — for less money and less hassle. Low monthly payments are the big attraction, although we'll soon find out why it's important to look at other factors before deciding to lease.Is leasing for you?Leasing can offer advantages but it may not fit everybody's needs and lifestyle. Furthermore, leases can be somewhat more complicated than new-car purchase loans and require greater care and preparation in order to get a good fair deal — and avoid problems. Some people will discover that leasing offers them no benefits and that they should not lease. Others will realize that leasing is right for them and that they can benefit greatly.Buying and leasing are different When you buy, you pay for the entire cost of a vehicle, regardless of how many miles you drive it. You typically make a down payment, pay sales taxes in cash or roll them into your loan, and pay an interest rate determined by your loan company, based on your credit history. You make your first payment a month after you sign your contract. Later, you may decide to sell or trade the vehicle for its depreciated resale value. When you lease, you pay for only a portion of a vehicle's cost, which is the part that you "use up" during the time you're driving it. You have the option of not making a down payment, you pay sales tax only on your monthly payments (in most states), and you pay a financial rate, called money factor that is similar to the interest on a loan. You may also be required to pay fees and possibly a security deposit that you don't pay when you buy. You make your first payment at the time you sign your contract — for the month ahead. At lease-end, you may either return the vehicle, or purchase it for its depreciated resale value. Buy vs lease example

As an example, if you lease a $20,000 car that will have, say, an estimated resale value of $13,000 after 24 months, you pay for the $7000 difference (this is called depreciation), plus finance charges, plus possible fees. When you buy, you pay the entire $20,000, plus finance charges, plus possible fees. This is fundamentally why leasing offers significantly lower monthly payments than buying.  

So if you're thinking about leasing a new car, or don't know if you should lease or buy — or need help with your current lease — this web site http://www.leaseguide.com , was created with you in mind. Remember, knowledge is power — especially in car leasing. An educated automotive consumer will get more respect from dealers and will benefit from better deals

Q. What parts of a lease deal are actually negotiable?

A. Primarily, and most importantly, vehicle price should be the focus of your negotiation. This is the only element of the deal that is directly controlled by the dealer. All other elements such as residual, money factor, down payment, security deposit, and acquisition fee are all controlled by the leasing company, for which the dealer is only acting as an agent. Sometimes, though not often, the leasing company gives the dealer authorization to negotiate some of these factors. You can, however, shop around for better deals.

Q. Where can I find new car prices and dealer invoice prices?

A. Check the Edmunds website for these prices. Of course these are "sticker" prices, not the prices you would actually pay. For actual price quotes, you should use a reputable online pricing / buying site such as InvoiceDealers. Also try Internet Pricing on a New Car , CarsDirect , and Yahoo! Autos , Get free price quotes from all of them for a good comparison. Unfortunately, in Canada there are no websites from which you can get free invoice prices. However, CarCostCanada is the best of the prices-for-fee sites.

Q. Can I shop for better lease terms at other leasing companies?

A. You don't have to use the dealer's or car manufacturer's leasing companies. Some banks (except in Canada), and credit unions do leases, and independent leasing companies. Often, a dealer will be able to offer deals from leasing companies or banks that they work with independently of the car manufacturer. Or you can find your own lease company. We recommend Primelease who will provide you with competitive leasing quotes when you tell them the vehicle you're interested in.

Q. When is the best time to lease? End of month? End of year?

A. The best time to lease is when the car manufacturer is sponsoring (subventing) promotional deals. These deals usually have a short time period in which they are available. You'll see the deals advertised on TV and in local newspapers. The reason these are better deals than a dealer alone can offer is that the manufacturer can manipulate ALL factors in the lease, price (rebates), money factor, term, and residual value — whereas a dealer can only manipulate price (discounts). The very best deals are those in which you get "contribution" from BOTH the manufacturer AND the dealer. If there are no manufacturer subvented deals at the time, then the best chance (repeat, chance) of a discounted dealer price is at day-end, month-end, quarter-end, or model-year end.

Q. Where can I find out the trade-in or retail market value of my used car?

A. We suggest the Edmunds website again. You can also use Kelley Blue Book but we've found that their values are often unrealistically high. Trade-in values are more related to local used-car dealer auction prices, which can vary widely from week to week. Local retail values ("asking" prices) are often determined by advertised prices in newspapers and auto "trader" magazines, which are usually a little lower than local used-car dealer prices.

Bush and Gore were sitting in a restaurant to discuss the craziness of the election. When the waitress came to take their orders, Gore said, "I'll take the steak." When she asked Bush, he said, "I'll take the quicky." Gore motioned for the waitress to come closer, and whispered into her ear "He means the quiche."